1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:30,790 [Music] 2 00:00:36,709 --> 00:00:34,229 what is up everybody welcome back it's 3 00:00:39,510 --> 00:00:36,719 been a few days i've 4 00:00:40,549 --> 00:00:39,520 been gallivanting across the uk down in 5 00:00:42,549 --> 00:00:40,559 london 6 00:00:44,150 --> 00:00:42,559 had a great few days good to see every 7 00:00:45,270 --> 00:00:44,160 everybody here in the chat thank you for 8 00:00:48,389 --> 00:00:45,280 being here 9 00:00:50,549 --> 00:00:48,399 um let's see who's here lara ufo garage 10 00:00:52,229 --> 00:00:50,559 what's up daniel miller good to see you 11 00:00:55,350 --> 00:00:52,239 the signal 12 00:00:58,950 --> 00:00:55,360 man so many people nigel 13 00:01:01,430 --> 00:00:58,960 dope knows joss laura my brother 14 00:01:05,189 --> 00:01:01,440 disclosure bro arlene 15 00:01:06,950 --> 00:01:05,199 witnesses and lord ludacris plud and ben 16 00:01:08,789 --> 00:01:06,960 thank you so much guys for being here 17 00:01:11,590 --> 00:01:08,799 let's not waste any more time i would 18 00:01:15,910 --> 00:01:11,600 like to bring in my guest the one 19 00:01:18,070 --> 00:01:15,920 the only mister rather be squidding 20 00:01:20,230 --> 00:01:18,080 hey brother hey hey vinny hey thanks for 21 00:01:22,310 --> 00:01:20,240 having me i'm excited to be here 22 00:01:24,550 --> 00:01:22,320 it's my pleasure man how you doing today 23 00:01:25,990 --> 00:01:24,560 doing well i've been living vicariously 24 00:01:27,910 --> 00:01:26,000 through you and your your photos from 25 00:01:29,990 --> 00:01:27,920 your amazing weekend this uh last couple 26 00:01:31,510 --> 00:01:30,000 days but uh 27 00:01:34,630 --> 00:01:31,520 i'm doing well 28 00:01:36,230 --> 00:01:34,640 good man yeah yeah it was a blast um but 29 00:01:38,230 --> 00:01:36,240 listen man we're here we're here to talk 30 00:01:39,910 --> 00:01:38,240 and talk to you man i've been wanting to 31 00:01:41,510 --> 00:01:39,920 speak to you for quite some time we've 32 00:01:44,069 --> 00:01:41,520 we've crossed paths a couple of times 33 00:01:46,310 --> 00:01:44,079 you know on sean's channel and that but 34 00:01:49,510 --> 00:01:46,320 yeah i'm really interested to get into 35 00:01:51,270 --> 00:01:49,520 into all about you tonight so um 36 00:01:53,990 --> 00:01:51,280 let's kick it off quite quite simply 37 00:01:55,270 --> 00:01:54,000 with what got you interested in in ufos 38 00:01:57,670 --> 00:01:55,280 man 39 00:01:58,389 --> 00:01:57,680 yeah i mean i was interested in ufos i 40 00:01:59,910 --> 00:01:58,399 mean 41 00:02:01,190 --> 00:01:59,920 kind of as long as i can remember right 42 00:02:03,670 --> 00:02:01,200 i've always been fascinated in the 43 00:02:05,830 --> 00:02:03,680 sci-fi and the weird uh it's been mostly 44 00:02:07,429 --> 00:02:05,840 kind of uh i treated it as entertainment 45 00:02:09,749 --> 00:02:07,439 mostly for most of my life you know i've 46 00:02:11,430 --> 00:02:09,759 watched x-files all the fun movies and 47 00:02:14,390 --> 00:02:11,440 stuff about the paranormal you know it 48 00:02:16,229 --> 00:02:14,400 really wasn't until 2017 with uh i think 49 00:02:18,309 --> 00:02:16,239 a similar story to a lot of people where 50 00:02:19,350 --> 00:02:18,319 i saw that new york times article and 51 00:02:20,390 --> 00:02:19,360 suddenly 52 00:02:22,470 --> 00:02:20,400 the 53 00:02:24,790 --> 00:02:22,480 entertaining weirdness became 54 00:02:26,309 --> 00:02:24,800 real and i've been you know digging in 55 00:02:27,830 --> 00:02:26,319 into you know the stuff that i might 56 00:02:29,830 --> 00:02:27,840 have considered a little bit too out 57 00:02:31,830 --> 00:02:29,840 there before and 58 00:02:33,990 --> 00:02:31,840 realizing that some of it 59 00:02:35,670 --> 00:02:34,000 might be true all of it might be true so 60 00:02:36,869 --> 00:02:35,680 you know i've been digging in more and 61 00:02:39,990 --> 00:02:36,879 more and 62 00:02:41,589 --> 00:02:40,000 uh you know about a year and a half ago 63 00:02:43,030 --> 00:02:41,599 now you know during the whole quarantine 64 00:02:45,110 --> 00:02:43,040 time i 65 00:02:47,350 --> 00:02:45,120 you know i i found a lot of stuff that i 66 00:02:49,030 --> 00:02:47,360 didn't get a lot of traction in the you 67 00:02:50,949 --> 00:02:49,040 know channels and the stuff that i was 68 00:02:52,470 --> 00:02:50,959 following so i 69 00:02:55,270 --> 00:02:52,480 kind of felt the need to you know put 70 00:02:57,110 --> 00:02:55,280 those ideas out there myself and uh see 71 00:02:58,630 --> 00:02:57,120 see where they fell 72 00:03:00,470 --> 00:02:58,640 that's incredible and you're right i 73 00:03:02,550 --> 00:03:00,480 think a lot of people really did 74 00:03:05,110 --> 00:03:02,560 it changed their view on the subject 75 00:03:07,910 --> 00:03:05,120 when when the thing when december 2017 76 00:03:09,270 --> 00:03:07,920 came along um 77 00:03:10,710 --> 00:03:09,280 so what were your first initial thoughts 78 00:03:12,949 --> 00:03:10,720 when you saw things like the tic tac 79 00:03:14,790 --> 00:03:12,959 video and go fasting gimbal was it was 80 00:03:16,630 --> 00:03:14,800 it i mean as good for you as it was for 81 00:03:21,350 --> 00:03:16,640 me 82 00:03:24,229 --> 00:03:21,360 i was more amazed by like the the actual 83 00:03:25,750 --> 00:03:24,239 written stuff in the story right like um 84 00:03:27,589 --> 00:03:25,760 those videos you know you look at them 85 00:03:28,869 --> 00:03:27,599 alone and you 86 00:03:30,390 --> 00:03:28,879 it's hard to know what's going on there 87 00:03:32,869 --> 00:03:30,400 right but then when you read the 88 00:03:35,190 --> 00:03:32,879 associated stuff with them and you read 89 00:03:37,509 --> 00:03:35,200 that they're talking about you know 90 00:03:39,990 --> 00:03:37,519 storing captured craft and stuff like 91 00:03:41,670 --> 00:03:40,000 that in the new york times and it's 92 00:03:43,270 --> 00:03:41,680 you know you you it's almost 93 00:03:45,430 --> 00:03:43,280 unbelievable right but then you see that 94 00:03:47,990 --> 00:03:45,440 it's coming from reputable you know 95 00:03:50,390 --> 00:03:48,000 pulitzer prize-winning journalists and 96 00:03:52,070 --> 00:03:50,400 yeah yeah yeah so now it was as big as i 97 00:03:53,509 --> 00:03:52,080 think it was probably as big for me as 98 00:03:54,949 --> 00:03:53,519 it was for you it was 99 00:03:57,110 --> 00:03:54,959 pretty groundbreaking 100 00:03:58,869 --> 00:03:57,120 awesome awesome now i'm just checking 101 00:04:00,949 --> 00:03:58,879 the chat out and i think that seems to 102 00:04:02,229 --> 00:04:00,959 be a big question that everyone wants to 103 00:04:05,429 --> 00:04:02,239 really know 104 00:04:06,710 --> 00:04:05,439 is where did the name come from 105 00:04:09,270 --> 00:04:06,720 it's a 106 00:04:11,030 --> 00:04:09,280 honest statement about what i usually 107 00:04:12,470 --> 00:04:11,040 feel because i i would rather be 108 00:04:15,270 --> 00:04:12,480 quitting a lot of the time squidding is 109 00:04:17,830 --> 00:04:15,280 a phenomenally fun activity you go down 110 00:04:19,990 --> 00:04:17,840 to the uh the docks of the uh the puget 111 00:04:21,990 --> 00:04:20,000 sound here which is a nice kind of quiet 112 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:22,000 body of water attached to the ocean and 113 00:04:28,150 --> 00:04:24,560 you go at night and people shine giant 114 00:04:30,870 --> 00:04:28,160 lights into the ocean and so you can see 115 00:04:33,510 --> 00:04:30,880 sometimes you'll see squid and uh 116 00:04:35,189 --> 00:04:33,520 octopuses and you know sea lions and 117 00:04:36,710 --> 00:04:35,199 stuff like that illuminated in the the 118 00:04:38,390 --> 00:04:36,720 darkness below and 119 00:04:39,830 --> 00:04:38,400 you know you're waiting for the schools 120 00:04:42,150 --> 00:04:39,840 of squid to come and then you just kind 121 00:04:44,070 --> 00:04:42,160 of pluck them out of the water and fry 122 00:04:47,110 --> 00:04:44,080 them up the next day for calamari and uh 123 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:47,120 yeah so it's a great fun activity 124 00:04:52,070 --> 00:04:50,000 that sounds amazing man like every 125 00:04:53,590 --> 00:04:52,080 aspect of it from being out on the water 126 00:04:54,469 --> 00:04:53,600 seeing everything under the water to 127 00:04:55,749 --> 00:04:54,479 then 128 00:04:58,310 --> 00:04:55,759 the end of the day when you're cooking 129 00:04:59,749 --> 00:04:58,320 it up man that sounds incredible i know 130 00:05:01,510 --> 00:04:59,759 it's win-win 131 00:05:03,590 --> 00:05:01,520 definitely man that's that's that's 132 00:05:05,430 --> 00:05:03,600 awesome so thank you for clarifying that 133 00:05:07,510 --> 00:05:05,440 i hope everyone is content with the 134 00:05:09,909 --> 00:05:07,520 answer 135 00:05:11,670 --> 00:05:09,919 so listen have you ever had a sighting 136 00:05:12,790 --> 00:05:11,680 or anything anomalous you know in the 137 00:05:15,990 --> 00:05:12,800 sky that you haven't been able to 138 00:05:19,749 --> 00:05:17,110 nothing 139 00:05:21,990 --> 00:05:19,759 no unfortunately not i maybe fortunately 140 00:05:23,990 --> 00:05:22,000 not actually 141 00:05:26,790 --> 00:05:24,000 no it's the same as me man i'm in the 142 00:05:28,629 --> 00:05:26,800 same boat so um 143 00:05:30,150 --> 00:05:28,639 yeah it's one of them um let's talk 144 00:05:32,629 --> 00:05:30,160 about ucr because obviously you're a 145 00:05:34,950 --> 00:05:32,639 regular co-host on uci it's a big show 146 00:05:37,350 --> 00:05:34,960 now it's followed by a lot of people how 147 00:05:38,790 --> 00:05:37,360 did your involvement come about 148 00:05:41,110 --> 00:05:38,800 yeah i i 149 00:05:43,350 --> 00:05:41,120 learned about ucr from the the big phone 150 00:05:44,950 --> 00:05:43,360 home the first event they threw and uh 151 00:05:46,870 --> 00:05:44,960 you know that really kind of introduced 152 00:05:49,270 --> 00:05:46,880 me to a lot of ufo twitter and a lot of 153 00:05:51,189 --> 00:05:49,280 youtube channels and uh 154 00:05:54,629 --> 00:05:51,199 and you know after that i you know tuned 155 00:05:56,309 --> 00:05:54,639 into lou's show uh and yeah 156 00:05:59,029 --> 00:05:56,319 i actually i kind of i heard them bound 157 00:06:01,270 --> 00:05:59,039 mouthing uh mick west i called it a 158 00:06:03,110 --> 00:06:01,280 couple times to uh defend my man vick's 159 00:06:05,510 --> 00:06:03,120 honor which like gets some mixed 160 00:06:06,870 --> 00:06:05,520 reactions to the chat but uh 161 00:06:08,390 --> 00:06:06,880 called it a couple times and you know i 162 00:06:09,909 --> 00:06:08,400 kind of you know jived pretty well with 163 00:06:11,909 --> 00:06:09,919 them and uh they 164 00:06:13,350 --> 00:06:11,919 asked me to come on and be a little bit 165 00:06:16,070 --> 00:06:13,360 more involved and it kind of snowballed 166 00:06:19,749 --> 00:06:16,080 from there now i find myself there 167 00:06:21,110 --> 00:06:19,759 uh three times a week at least and 168 00:06:22,870 --> 00:06:21,120 join the wonderful conversations that 169 00:06:25,110 --> 00:06:22,880 happened there i think it's a real real 170 00:06:26,710 --> 00:06:25,120 fun thing to be a part of 171 00:06:29,590 --> 00:06:26,720 yeah excellent and you mentioned mick 172 00:06:31,830 --> 00:06:29,600 west now i'm a firm believer in we 173 00:06:34,070 --> 00:06:31,840 skeptics are accepted in this community 174 00:06:35,909 --> 00:06:34,080 and i know mick west gets he gets a bad 175 00:06:37,670 --> 00:06:35,919 rap by obviously from a lot of people 176 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:37,680 i've spoken to mick on this channel you 177 00:06:42,309 --> 00:06:40,080 know i like to hear every angle i don't 178 00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:42,319 want to just sit in a narrow a narrow 179 00:06:47,270 --> 00:06:44,560 chamber an echo chamber or 180 00:06:48,550 --> 00:06:47,280 and not get every aspect of it so 181 00:06:49,909 --> 00:06:48,560 how do you feel about him do you feel 182 00:06:51,909 --> 00:06:49,919 like he is 183 00:06:53,749 --> 00:06:51,919 um acceptable do you think he goes too 184 00:06:56,629 --> 00:06:53,759 far sometimes or do you think he asks 185 00:06:58,790 --> 00:06:56,639 the right questions yeah i think he's a 186 00:07:01,029 --> 00:06:58,800 integral part of you know whatever this 187 00:07:03,110 --> 00:07:01,039 community is because you know i don't 188 00:07:04,309 --> 00:07:03,120 necessarily agree with him on everything 189 00:07:05,270 --> 00:07:04,319 but 190 00:07:53,670 --> 00:07:05,280 i 191 00:07:55,350 --> 00:07:53,680 so 192 00:07:56,869 --> 00:07:55,360 yeah yeah you migrate could be correct 193 00:07:59,029 --> 00:07:56,879 about everything and he could still be 194 00:08:00,629 --> 00:07:59,039 wrong about there being aliens and ufos 195 00:08:01,430 --> 00:08:00,639 in our atmosphere 196 00:08:04,230 --> 00:08:01,440 yeah 197 00:08:06,070 --> 00:08:04,240 no no i appreciate that that answer and 198 00:08:08,390 --> 00:08:06,080 yeah i think we do need skeptics i think 199 00:08:11,670 --> 00:08:08,400 it makes the other side of the coin 200 00:08:13,990 --> 00:08:11,680 people work harder you know it brings a 201 00:08:16,469 --> 00:08:14,000 balance to the subject and i do believe 202 00:08:18,869 --> 00:08:16,479 sometimes personally that mick 203 00:08:20,390 --> 00:08:18,879 does kind of tend to go too far over the 204 00:08:21,990 --> 00:08:20,400 edge but you know 205 00:08:23,589 --> 00:08:22,000 it is what it is 206 00:08:32,310 --> 00:08:23,599 um 207 00:08:34,230 --> 00:08:32,320 one thing i wanted to ask you is 208 00:08:35,990 --> 00:08:34,240 when you when it com came to starting 209 00:08:37,670 --> 00:08:36,000 your own channel 210 00:08:41,029 --> 00:08:37,680 did you have a kind of direction that 211 00:08:42,870 --> 00:08:41,039 you wanted to go in was it trying to be 212 00:08:44,630 --> 00:08:42,880 a different type of channel to all the 213 00:08:46,949 --> 00:08:44,640 other ones out there because you do 214 00:08:47,910 --> 00:08:46,959 focus a lot very scientifically based i 215 00:08:49,350 --> 00:08:47,920 mean that's 216 00:08:51,350 --> 00:08:49,360 that's one thing i absolutely love about 217 00:08:53,750 --> 00:08:51,360 your channel and is that a background 218 00:08:56,070 --> 00:08:53,760 you have or is that just pure research 219 00:08:57,030 --> 00:08:56,080 yeah no i i appreciate that um you know 220 00:08:58,550 --> 00:08:57,040 i kind of 221 00:09:01,750 --> 00:08:58,560 fell into that kind of 222 00:09:03,430 --> 00:09:01,760 science uh niche there uh you know the 223 00:09:05,350 --> 00:09:03,440 science aspect really interests me and 224 00:09:06,389 --> 00:09:05,360 you know it's really interested me as i 225 00:09:08,310 --> 00:09:06,399 you know 226 00:09:10,389 --> 00:09:08,320 look on reddit and the on science 227 00:09:12,790 --> 00:09:10,399 reddits and the recent developments and 228 00:09:14,870 --> 00:09:12,800 there's a lot of developments that 229 00:09:16,870 --> 00:09:14,880 seem like they could very well relate to 230 00:09:19,110 --> 00:09:16,880 the ufo issue but people aren't really 231 00:09:19,829 --> 00:09:19,120 connecting those dots so you know i've 232 00:09:20,630 --> 00:09:19,839 i 233 00:09:22,150 --> 00:09:20,640 as 234 00:09:23,670 --> 00:09:22,160 one of the most you know i really find 235 00:09:26,310 --> 00:09:23,680 it interesting and engaging to kind of 236 00:09:27,829 --> 00:09:26,320 do those try to connect those dots uh 237 00:09:29,350 --> 00:09:27,839 you know when i first started my channel 238 00:09:31,030 --> 00:09:29,360 i was just trying to kind of raise 239 00:09:33,990 --> 00:09:31,040 awareness to the whole 240 00:09:35,430 --> 00:09:34,000 issue of uaps and everything like 241 00:09:37,670 --> 00:09:35,440 it was 242 00:09:40,150 --> 00:09:37,680 you know middle of quarantine about you 243 00:09:42,630 --> 00:09:40,160 know summer of 2020 and 244 00:09:44,790 --> 00:09:42,640 i mean even now i feel this way which is 245 00:09:47,670 --> 00:09:44,800 this is groundbreaking news by the new 246 00:09:49,829 --> 00:09:47,680 york times in 2017 and throughout and 247 00:09:51,750 --> 00:09:49,839 still you know i go and talk to my 248 00:09:54,630 --> 00:09:51,760 friends in real life and 249 00:09:55,829 --> 00:09:54,640 no one is aware of it at all right so 250 00:09:57,829 --> 00:09:55,839 yeah you know i was just trying to you 251 00:09:59,110 --> 00:09:57,839 know cover the new york times topics and 252 00:10:01,110 --> 00:09:59,120 some of those you know the videos and 253 00:10:03,509 --> 00:10:01,120 stuff in the beginning and offer my 254 00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:03,519 perspective on that uh and then it kind 255 00:10:07,110 --> 00:10:05,440 of you know sort of 256 00:10:08,389 --> 00:10:07,120 there's not a lot to go on there right 257 00:10:09,670 --> 00:10:08,399 because you know the information kind of 258 00:10:11,350 --> 00:10:09,680 stopped so i was trying to figure out 259 00:10:13,269 --> 00:10:11,360 you know what else could i 260 00:10:15,430 --> 00:10:13,279 add to the conversation and the other 261 00:10:17,190 --> 00:10:15,440 kind of science niches 262 00:10:18,310 --> 00:10:17,200 something i kind of fell into 263 00:10:19,430 --> 00:10:18,320 sure and i went back i've been back 264 00:10:21,590 --> 00:10:19,440 through your channel the last couple of 265 00:10:22,949 --> 00:10:21,600 days just looking into it and it's great 266 00:10:24,790 --> 00:10:22,959 how you do you break down all the 267 00:10:25,509 --> 00:10:24,800 different new york times bits and pieces 268 00:10:27,430 --> 00:10:25,519 over 269 00:10:29,190 --> 00:10:27,440 a period of time but then within those 270 00:10:30,949 --> 00:10:29,200 you you really delve deep into other 271 00:10:32,389 --> 00:10:30,959 aspects and i've got a little list and 272 00:10:34,790 --> 00:10:32,399 i'd like to talk about each one 273 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:34,800 specifically first of all i think one of 274 00:10:39,590 --> 00:10:36,480 your early videos was based around meta 275 00:10:41,430 --> 00:10:39,600 materials and i think alien alloys 276 00:10:42,949 --> 00:10:41,440 so how did how did 277 00:10:45,269 --> 00:10:42,959 what did you find 278 00:10:46,790 --> 00:10:45,279 how how did you come away from looking 279 00:10:48,949 --> 00:10:46,800 into that part of the subject after 280 00:10:50,870 --> 00:10:48,959 you've done a bit of digging 281 00:10:52,949 --> 00:10:50,880 yeah so that was you know the original 282 00:10:55,269 --> 00:10:52,959 2017 article 283 00:10:57,110 --> 00:10:55,279 they mentioned these recovered materials 284 00:10:58,069 --> 00:10:57,120 and meta materials and then they just 285 00:11:00,150 --> 00:10:58,079 kind of 286 00:11:00,949 --> 00:11:00,160 dropped that there was no follow-up at 287 00:11:03,110 --> 00:11:00,959 all 288 00:11:06,710 --> 00:11:03,120 um but you know if you did kind of dig 289 00:11:08,870 --> 00:11:06,720 into the background of that you found 290 00:11:11,110 --> 00:11:08,880 these kind of the history of the to the 291 00:11:13,990 --> 00:11:11,120 stars academy finding these 292 00:11:15,829 --> 00:11:14,000 pieces that were presumably connected to 293 00:11:17,750 --> 00:11:15,839 roswell i think it was there's some 294 00:11:20,550 --> 00:11:17,760 connection through linda mountain howe i 295 00:11:22,069 --> 00:11:20,560 believe yeah and and um and all that but 296 00:11:23,350 --> 00:11:22,079 they 297 00:11:24,870 --> 00:11:23,360 yeah if you looked in the background of 298 00:11:27,910 --> 00:11:24,880 it you found that they do have this 299 00:11:29,509 --> 00:11:27,920 piece of metal that has a weird layered 300 00:11:31,670 --> 00:11:29,519 structure to it so you know layered with 301 00:11:33,509 --> 00:11:31,680 bismuth and then magnesium 302 00:11:37,990 --> 00:11:33,519 and 303 00:11:39,990 --> 00:11:38,000 know there's been people who have 304 00:11:42,470 --> 00:11:40,000 claimed that oh this looks like metallic 305 00:11:44,710 --> 00:11:42,480 slag from an industrial process but then 306 00:11:46,389 --> 00:11:44,720 you have a paper from hal put off 307 00:11:48,870 --> 00:11:46,399 which actually it might not be from hal 308 00:11:50,629 --> 00:11:48,880 put off but he uh found a paper or you 309 00:11:51,590 --> 00:11:50,639 know he cited this paper where it talks 310 00:11:53,750 --> 00:11:51,600 about 311 00:11:55,509 --> 00:11:53,760 hey if you had a material that had these 312 00:11:57,110 --> 00:11:55,519 layers of specifically bismuth and 313 00:11:59,670 --> 00:11:57,120 magnesium 314 00:12:01,350 --> 00:11:59,680 it would potentially act as a meta 315 00:12:03,509 --> 00:12:01,360 material which would 316 00:12:05,430 --> 00:12:03,519 act like a wave guide to 317 00:12:07,190 --> 00:12:05,440 terahertz waves 318 00:12:08,470 --> 00:12:07,200 which is essentially kind of saying that 319 00:12:10,550 --> 00:12:08,480 you know there's 320 00:12:12,069 --> 00:12:10,560 this is a little bit above my head too 321 00:12:13,110 --> 00:12:12,079 but it's uh 322 00:12:14,710 --> 00:12:13,120 essentially saying that you know you 323 00:12:16,870 --> 00:12:14,720 could you know 324 00:12:19,430 --> 00:12:16,880 manipulate and you know guide these 325 00:12:21,430 --> 00:12:19,440 terahertz waves with a material like 326 00:12:22,629 --> 00:12:21,440 they found here 327 00:12:24,069 --> 00:12:22,639 and so you know that's that's just kind 328 00:12:25,430 --> 00:12:24,079 of blew my mind right is that we have 329 00:12:27,430 --> 00:12:25,440 this hunk of metal that looks kind of 330 00:12:30,069 --> 00:12:27,440 crazy and someone has this you know 331 00:12:31,829 --> 00:12:30,079 vague connection to roswell which seems 332 00:12:32,790 --> 00:12:31,839 all very dubious to me but then when you 333 00:12:34,550 --> 00:12:32,800 add 334 00:12:37,430 --> 00:12:34,560 hey there is something kind of special 335 00:12:39,269 --> 00:12:37,440 and strange about this material it 336 00:12:41,670 --> 00:12:39,279 yeah the questions come leaping out 337 00:12:42,870 --> 00:12:41,680 right like what's what is going on there 338 00:12:43,910 --> 00:12:42,880 is that 339 00:12:45,750 --> 00:12:43,920 is this 340 00:12:48,389 --> 00:12:45,760 material from a craft 341 00:12:50,069 --> 00:12:48,399 absolutely it may be yeah and that that 342 00:12:52,310 --> 00:12:50,079 conversation is still ongoing you know 343 00:12:53,990 --> 00:12:52,320 we're still waiting to hear about some 344 00:12:56,069 --> 00:12:54,000 of the information that was initially 345 00:12:57,590 --> 00:12:56,079 teased to us a few years ago so yeah i 346 00:12:59,670 --> 00:12:57,600 think it's still 347 00:13:01,269 --> 00:12:59,680 you know the jury's out on on what 348 00:13:02,310 --> 00:13:01,279 they've got um 349 00:13:04,310 --> 00:13:02,320 whether it be in the hands of the 350 00:13:06,550 --> 00:13:04,320 government the military private 351 00:13:08,949 --> 00:13:06,560 aerospace you know corporations or 352 00:13:10,710 --> 00:13:08,959 whatever do you think 353 00:13:13,750 --> 00:13:10,720 based on what you've seen heard and who 354 00:13:15,030 --> 00:13:13,760 you've spoken to through ucr 355 00:13:17,750 --> 00:13:15,040 what are your thoughts on crash 356 00:13:19,750 --> 00:13:17,760 retrievals as far as what's in the hands 357 00:13:22,150 --> 00:13:19,760 of say the government military or 358 00:13:24,069 --> 00:13:22,160 private aerospace 359 00:13:26,230 --> 00:13:24,079 yeah so 360 00:13:27,990 --> 00:13:26,240 i'm i'm on mixed minds here you know i 361 00:13:30,150 --> 00:13:28,000 am like you know you mentioned that the 362 00:13:32,550 --> 00:13:30,160 the meta material hunk there yeah i'm 363 00:13:33,509 --> 00:13:32,560 i'm not totally convinced that that is 364 00:13:35,350 --> 00:13:33,519 better 365 00:13:37,030 --> 00:13:35,360 um i think that's very interesting and 366 00:13:38,790 --> 00:13:37,040 like a 367 00:13:40,230 --> 00:13:38,800 you know that that link to the you know 368 00:13:42,310 --> 00:13:40,240 science paper about bismuth and 369 00:13:43,430 --> 00:13:42,320 magnesium is very interesting but i 370 00:13:47,750 --> 00:13:43,440 still 371 00:13:49,670 --> 00:13:47,760 would get a crashed ufo and get like a 372 00:13:51,990 --> 00:13:49,680 hunk of metal like that 373 00:13:54,230 --> 00:13:52,000 kind of detached from a larger craft and 374 00:13:56,790 --> 00:13:54,240 then when you talk about you know actual 375 00:13:58,949 --> 00:13:56,800 whole craft and stuff like that 376 00:14:00,470 --> 00:13:58,959 you know it brings to mind you that's a 377 00:14:01,590 --> 00:14:00,480 question that everyone has is you know 378 00:14:03,829 --> 00:14:01,600 if they are 379 00:14:06,870 --> 00:14:03,839 able to get here from wherever they were 380 00:14:09,189 --> 00:14:06,880 started from are they really going to 381 00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:09,199 crash here on earth like is that that 382 00:14:13,670 --> 00:14:11,440 doesn't make a lot of sense to me 383 00:14:15,030 --> 00:14:13,680 but i would i would love to be proven 384 00:14:16,470 --> 00:14:15,040 wrong 385 00:14:17,670 --> 00:14:16,480 you know kind of kind of my own pet 386 00:14:19,670 --> 00:14:17,680 theory is 387 00:14:20,710 --> 00:14:19,680 uh you know you speak talk about you 388 00:14:23,030 --> 00:14:20,720 know the meta material that was 389 00:14:25,350 --> 00:14:23,040 recovered and there's other other pieces 390 00:14:27,910 --> 00:14:25,360 of artifacts that were recovered by ufos 391 00:14:30,230 --> 00:14:27,920 and it seems to me that you have uh the 392 00:14:31,110 --> 00:14:30,240 skeptics who look at these materials and 393 00:14:33,189 --> 00:14:31,120 say 394 00:14:35,269 --> 00:14:33,199 hey this just looks like a piece of 395 00:14:37,430 --> 00:14:35,279 molten metal you know some like 396 00:14:40,069 --> 00:14:37,440 industrial slag that could be created in 397 00:14:41,829 --> 00:14:40,079 a metal foundry and then you have the 398 00:14:43,350 --> 00:14:41,839 believers who say hey no no this is 399 00:14:45,350 --> 00:14:43,360 actually a meta material look at the 400 00:14:47,350 --> 00:14:45,360 layering or they'll you know look at 401 00:14:49,110 --> 00:14:47,360 other objects and say well we just have 402 00:14:50,550 --> 00:14:49,120 to study it and find out you know what 403 00:14:52,069 --> 00:14:50,560 is really going on there there's got to 404 00:14:55,269 --> 00:14:52,079 be some nano 405 00:14:59,430 --> 00:14:55,279 technology going in on these inner works 406 00:15:02,069 --> 00:14:59,440 my hunch is that it might be something 407 00:15:03,990 --> 00:15:02,079 they might both be wrong right 408 00:15:06,790 --> 00:15:04,000 my hypothesis is 409 00:15:08,150 --> 00:15:06,800 alien poop that's you know these these 410 00:15:11,189 --> 00:15:08,160 things are 411 00:15:13,110 --> 00:15:11,199 up in the air they're 412 00:15:15,189 --> 00:15:13,120 not really engaging with us but they're 413 00:15:16,069 --> 00:15:15,199 monitoring what's going on on earth and 414 00:15:17,829 --> 00:15:16,079 they're 415 00:15:19,509 --> 00:15:17,839 potentially replicating right the the 416 00:15:22,069 --> 00:15:19,519 von neumann probe theory where you have 417 00:15:24,470 --> 00:15:22,079 a self-replicating space robot that goes 418 00:15:26,150 --> 00:15:24,480 to one planet and monitors it while 419 00:15:27,430 --> 00:15:26,160 making copies of itself and sending it 420 00:15:29,670 --> 00:15:27,440 to other places 421 00:15:31,749 --> 00:15:29,680 fascinating wow 422 00:15:33,509 --> 00:15:31,759 yeah so the von neumann probe so if you 423 00:15:35,110 --> 00:15:33,519 had something like this and you 424 00:15:37,590 --> 00:15:35,120 were able to make these self-replicating 425 00:15:38,389 --> 00:15:37,600 space probes go at 20 of the speed of 426 00:15:40,550 --> 00:15:38,399 light 427 00:15:42,230 --> 00:15:40,560 you could populate the entire galaxy in 428 00:15:44,550 --> 00:15:42,240 you know a couple millions of years 429 00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:44,560 which is a blink of the eye in 430 00:15:48,790 --> 00:15:47,040 astronomical time frames sure 431 00:15:50,310 --> 00:15:48,800 so that's possible they're 432 00:15:52,310 --> 00:15:50,320 probably here 433 00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:52,320 and if they're here i think that what 434 00:15:56,710 --> 00:15:54,480 they're probably doing is you know 435 00:15:59,110 --> 00:15:56,720 monitoring us and collecting resources 436 00:16:00,629 --> 00:15:59,120 around earth and 437 00:16:02,069 --> 00:16:00,639 if they're making copies of themselves 438 00:16:04,310 --> 00:16:02,079 they'd have to be refining those 439 00:16:06,710 --> 00:16:04,320 resources somehow and 440 00:16:09,430 --> 00:16:06,720 i think they're probably pooping out the 441 00:16:10,790 --> 00:16:09,440 the liquid metal waste as as liquid 442 00:16:11,910 --> 00:16:10,800 metal and that's what that's what people 443 00:16:14,389 --> 00:16:11,920 see that's probably what i think 444 00:16:16,069 --> 00:16:14,399 happened at roswell is that maybe they 445 00:16:17,990 --> 00:16:16,079 found some things on the radar and 446 00:16:19,350 --> 00:16:18,000 they're you know what what is that and 447 00:16:20,949 --> 00:16:19,360 then they see 448 00:16:22,790 --> 00:16:20,959 oh there's a bunch of droplets coming 449 00:16:24,949 --> 00:16:22,800 from it it must have crashed let's go 450 00:16:27,189 --> 00:16:24,959 see what what happened and they find a 451 00:16:30,069 --> 00:16:27,199 bunch of metal weird droplets on the 452 00:16:32,389 --> 00:16:30,079 ground they pick them up and they 453 00:16:34,389 --> 00:16:32,399 go off to top secret science research 454 00:16:36,310 --> 00:16:34,399 facilities and they've been 455 00:16:38,230 --> 00:16:36,320 studying alien poop for the last 70 456 00:16:39,990 --> 00:16:38,240 years in secret 457 00:16:41,509 --> 00:16:40,000 i love it i mean 458 00:16:44,230 --> 00:16:41,519 the way even the way you explain it it 459 00:16:46,629 --> 00:16:44,240 makes sense and that's why i really 460 00:16:48,470 --> 00:16:46,639 find your work and your videos so 461 00:16:51,430 --> 00:16:48,480 fascinating because you you lay it out 462 00:16:53,269 --> 00:16:51,440 in a way that is it it has that 463 00:16:55,990 --> 00:16:53,279 scientific sort of analysis of it but it 464 00:16:58,470 --> 00:16:56,000 also makes sense to people like me who 465 00:16:59,829 --> 00:16:58,480 aren't really science based um i'm just 466 00:17:02,230 --> 00:16:59,839 gonna bring up a couple of comments here 467 00:17:04,230 --> 00:17:02,240 aaron desario does anyone else notice 468 00:17:06,150 --> 00:17:04,240 the coincidence that bismuth is the same 469 00:17:07,990 --> 00:17:06,160 column on the periodic table as element 470 00:17:09,829 --> 00:17:08,000 115. 471 00:17:11,909 --> 00:17:09,839 i mean that's certainly interesting and 472 00:17:13,590 --> 00:17:11,919 i didn't know that so yeah i i didn't 473 00:17:15,029 --> 00:17:13,600 make that connection either but that 474 00:17:17,029 --> 00:17:15,039 that is very interesting you know yeah 475 00:17:19,029 --> 00:17:17,039 the columns on the periodic table all 476 00:17:20,069 --> 00:17:19,039 have similar you know 477 00:17:22,789 --> 00:17:20,079 properties 478 00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:22,799 yeah that is that is interesting good to 479 00:17:28,870 --> 00:17:25,679 see aaron here as well um greg says 480 00:17:30,150 --> 00:17:28,880 rather be squidding thoughts on lazar s4 481 00:17:32,070 --> 00:17:30,160 well we've already touched upon crash 482 00:17:34,630 --> 00:17:32,080 retrievals so yeah give us your thoughts 483 00:17:36,870 --> 00:17:34,640 on bob lazar and s4 and that whole uh 484 00:17:39,990 --> 00:17:36,880 story yeah you know 485 00:17:41,909 --> 00:17:40,000 a lot of these stories like lazars i 486 00:17:44,710 --> 00:17:41,919 my kind of default position is that 487 00:17:46,950 --> 00:17:44,720 there's probably some kernel of truth 488 00:17:48,070 --> 00:17:46,960 but there's probably a lot of mistruths 489 00:17:49,510 --> 00:17:48,080 as well 490 00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:49,520 um so you know i think that there's a 491 00:17:54,870 --> 00:17:52,160 lot of problems with lazar's story you 492 00:17:56,789 --> 00:17:54,880 know we talk about his education 493 00:17:58,150 --> 00:17:56,799 and you know 494 00:18:00,870 --> 00:17:58,160 there's a lot of holes in his stories 495 00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:00,880 right but there's yeah undeniably 496 00:18:05,430 --> 00:18:03,200 he kind of got some things right right 497 00:18:08,070 --> 00:18:05,440 like he had was able to take his friends 498 00:18:10,630 --> 00:18:08,080 out to see stuff in the sky who knows 499 00:18:12,710 --> 00:18:10,640 what that is and 500 00:18:15,029 --> 00:18:12,720 he you know he there's some things that 501 00:18:16,950 --> 00:18:15,039 are you know hard to explain by just 502 00:18:18,070 --> 00:18:16,960 coincidentally being true 503 00:18:20,070 --> 00:18:18,080 you know my 504 00:18:22,950 --> 00:18:20,080 own kind of hunch is that you know maybe 505 00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:22,960 he was working as a 506 00:18:26,630 --> 00:18:24,960 contractor at los alamos or you know 507 00:18:28,310 --> 00:18:26,640 something i think there's some theories 508 00:18:30,789 --> 00:18:28,320 they found in a phone book and they can 509 00:18:32,630 --> 00:18:30,799 tie into like a contracting job yeah my 510 00:18:34,950 --> 00:18:32,640 guess is that maybe he was you know in 511 00:18:36,870 --> 00:18:34,960 that vicinity of people and maybe there 512 00:18:39,750 --> 00:18:36,880 was a real whistleblower that fed 513 00:18:40,789 --> 00:18:39,760 bizarre information and then lazar kind 514 00:18:42,789 --> 00:18:40,799 of 515 00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:42,799 you know took that to be his own story 516 00:18:47,110 --> 00:18:45,600 and then embellished it but 517 00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:47,120 that i mean i i don't really know what 518 00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:48,960 happened but that kind of makes the most 519 00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:50,400 sense to me 520 00:18:53,350 --> 00:18:51,600 yeah no but that's the thing i think it 521 00:18:54,549 --> 00:18:53,360 gets to that point in the lazar story 522 00:18:56,789 --> 00:18:54,559 where 523 00:18:59,830 --> 00:18:56,799 we have to speculate and we may never 524 00:19:01,590 --> 00:18:59,840 know the answers you know i think if you 525 00:19:03,029 --> 00:19:01,600 look at it from a positive perspective 526 00:19:05,029 --> 00:19:03,039 bob lazar 527 00:19:07,110 --> 00:19:05,039 story brought the ufo subject to a 528 00:19:09,270 --> 00:19:07,120 broader audience back in the 90s in the 529 00:19:11,590 --> 00:19:09,280 early 90s so that's a good thing in my 530 00:19:14,150 --> 00:19:11,600 my book but i think we could argue this 531 00:19:16,150 --> 00:19:14,160 till we're all you know 532 00:19:17,669 --> 00:19:16,160 in nursing homes at the end of our end 533 00:19:20,070 --> 00:19:17,679 of our lives you know it could be one of 534 00:19:22,390 --> 00:19:20,080 them but uh yeah thank you do you think 535 00:19:25,750 --> 00:19:22,400 lazar will give a deathbed confession uh 536 00:19:27,190 --> 00:19:25,760 either way oh now that is a 537 00:19:30,230 --> 00:19:27,200 yeah hopefully that's a long ways off 538 00:19:32,070 --> 00:19:30,240 but uh hopefully and hopefully it's 539 00:19:33,669 --> 00:19:32,080 confirming that it's all true still and 540 00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:33,679 not that he does a turn around and says 541 00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:36,480 yeah i was just playing you all 542 00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:38,320 that would be awful man that would cause 543 00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:39,760 some heartbreak 544 00:19:45,029 --> 00:19:42,000 yeah big time man 545 00:19:46,310 --> 00:19:45,039 uh now another video that i really 546 00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:46,320 enjoyed but 547 00:19:51,510 --> 00:19:48,000 i'm not gonna lie it went a bit over my 548 00:19:54,390 --> 00:19:51,520 head was quasi crystals 549 00:19:57,110 --> 00:19:54,400 yeah can you break it down for the the 550 00:19:59,350 --> 00:19:57,120 average joe like myself because 551 00:20:01,830 --> 00:19:59,360 it all looked good sounded good make 552 00:20:03,430 --> 00:20:01,840 made the connections and stuff but it 553 00:20:05,029 --> 00:20:03,440 was still like 554 00:20:07,590 --> 00:20:05,039 what what did i just watch in here 555 00:20:09,430 --> 00:20:07,600 because that was you know wow 556 00:20:11,830 --> 00:20:09,440 yeah yeah no that that was that was uh 557 00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:11,840 one of my one of my first couple videos 558 00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:12,799 uh 559 00:20:17,029 --> 00:20:15,280 so so i kind of i was alluded to or 560 00:20:20,310 --> 00:20:17,039 found out about quasi-like crystals from 561 00:20:21,430 --> 00:20:20,320 uh jeremy riss's channel alien scientist 562 00:20:22,789 --> 00:20:21,440 right and he 563 00:20:24,149 --> 00:20:22,799 he was um 564 00:20:25,350 --> 00:20:24,159 you know friends with this guy ed 565 00:20:27,430 --> 00:20:25,360 foucher 566 00:20:28,390 --> 00:20:27,440 uh yeah back in the like 90s or 567 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:28,400 something he was kind of like a bob 568 00:20:32,830 --> 00:20:30,480 lazar type figure you know had claimed 569 00:20:34,870 --> 00:20:32,840 to work at these secret facilities 570 00:20:36,950 --> 00:20:34,880 and you know he 571 00:20:37,990 --> 00:20:36,960 you know just ed foucher in his talks is 572 00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:38,000 what kind of 573 00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:39,600 clued me into 574 00:20:43,430 --> 00:20:41,600 first what meta materials actually are 575 00:20:45,510 --> 00:20:43,440 that they're not just some weird name 576 00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:45,520 that the new york times made up and then 577 00:20:48,870 --> 00:20:47,280 you know he mentioned quasi crystal that 578 00:20:52,390 --> 00:20:48,880 you know there was these quasi-crystals 579 00:20:53,990 --> 00:20:52,400 technology in these uh in these crafts 580 00:20:58,789 --> 00:20:54,000 and 581 00:21:00,549 --> 00:20:58,799 tried to wrap my head around it again a 582 00:21:02,549 --> 00:21:00,559 lot of these topics like i gotta read a 583 00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:02,559 bunch of stuff and it will make sense to 584 00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:04,400 me for about 30 minutes so that i need 585 00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:06,400 to reread stuff to actually have it 586 00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:08,000 aligned in my brain again but it's 587 00:21:12,630 --> 00:21:10,320 essentially some way of like having a 588 00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:12,640 crystalline structure that isn't 589 00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:13,679 actually 590 00:21:17,669 --> 00:21:16,000 repeating so like most crystalline 591 00:21:19,110 --> 00:21:17,679 structure is like here's a crystal 592 00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:19,120 here's a crystal kitchen crystal they're 593 00:21:24,149 --> 00:21:21,440 all in a nice solid grid 594 00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:24,159 a crossy quasi crystal is a way to kind 595 00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:25,440 of 596 00:21:28,830 --> 00:21:27,840 it's repeating but it's not 597 00:21:31,909 --> 00:21:28,840 in any 598 00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:31,919 defined pattern necessarily so there's 599 00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:33,120 like a 600 00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:38,000 it's common in like uh 601 00:21:42,310 --> 00:21:40,480 a lot of different motifs of uh like 602 00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:42,320 building and stuff like that 603 00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:44,880 where it's these cool patterns that 604 00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:46,080 aren't 605 00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:49,600 really patterns but they kind of are 606 00:21:52,950 --> 00:21:50,559 and 607 00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:52,960 that's a bad explanation for me but wait 608 00:21:57,909 --> 00:21:54,720 do you say penrose is that like roger 609 00:21:58,950 --> 00:21:57,919 roger penrose is it yeah yeah yeah roger 610 00:22:01,430 --> 00:21:58,960 penrose uh 611 00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:01,440 it's like a weird mathematical kind of 612 00:22:05,669 --> 00:22:04,080 uh conundrum for like having 613 00:22:07,190 --> 00:22:05,679 symmetry 614 00:22:08,950 --> 00:22:07,200 between things that shouldn't have 615 00:22:11,110 --> 00:22:08,960 symmetry so like there's a 616 00:22:12,630 --> 00:22:11,120 normally you can't have like a pentagram 617 00:22:16,870 --> 00:22:12,640 pentagram 618 00:22:19,909 --> 00:22:16,880 because there's only some 619 00:22:22,870 --> 00:22:19,919 shape that you can tile yeah but you can 620 00:22:25,190 --> 00:22:22,880 tile a pentagon pentagon in this 621 00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:25,200 quasi-crystal type fashion 622 00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:28,080 so it still has five-fold symmetry but 623 00:22:31,510 --> 00:22:30,159 it's not just the same object repeating 624 00:22:34,549 --> 00:22:31,520 it's like you got to kind of splice in 625 00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:34,559 these other little filler kind of things 626 00:22:37,350 --> 00:22:35,360 but 627 00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:37,360 if you do this in a 3d crystalline 628 00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:40,240 structure then what you end up with is 629 00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:43,120 something that's incredibly strong and 630 00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:46,000 like resistant to it has properties that 631 00:22:49,750 --> 00:22:47,440 just a normal crystal wouldn't have that 632 00:22:52,230 --> 00:22:49,760 would be very useful for you know things 633 00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:52,240 like spacecraft and you know 634 00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:54,720 temperature resistant things and kind of 635 00:22:58,549 --> 00:22:56,320 the angle that i found somewhat 636 00:23:00,710 --> 00:22:58,559 interesting is that 637 00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:00,720 it's kind of like pie these quasi 638 00:23:05,909 --> 00:23:02,559 crystals and where it's like a 639 00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:09,110 structure right so like my kind of out 640 00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:10,720 there hypothesis i like to kind of you 641 00:23:14,950 --> 00:23:12,720 know take these ideas of that draw one 642 00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:14,960 one layer beyond that might be a little 643 00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:16,640 bit a little bit out there but you kind 644 00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:18,320 of the out there idea here is that if 645 00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:20,799 you have this non-repeating crystalline 646 00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:23,600 structure you could potentially encode 647 00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:26,240 information into it you could you know 648 00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:28,240 structure it in such a way that you're 649 00:23:34,630 --> 00:23:30,400 kind of like the digits of pi you're 650 00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:37,110 information inside of those gaps of the 651 00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:40,000 five-fold symmetry and wow if you did 652 00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:42,240 that by the nature of quasi crystals you 653 00:23:45,909 --> 00:23:44,400 know it would be a incredibly tough 654 00:23:47,830 --> 00:23:45,919 crystalline structure it would you know 655 00:23:49,750 --> 00:23:47,840 last for a long time you could 656 00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:49,760 potentially encode some information into 657 00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:51,360 a quasi crystal and 658 00:23:55,029 --> 00:23:53,200 shoot it across the galaxy in homes that 659 00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:55,039 it would eventually 660 00:23:58,870 --> 00:23:57,279 hit down on some place like earth 661 00:24:00,870 --> 00:23:58,880 and that and that's where we found them 662 00:24:02,630 --> 00:24:00,880 that's the only natural quasi crystals 663 00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:02,640 we found on earth were 664 00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:04,720 from meteorite fragments 665 00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:06,320 and there's a there's a whole history of 666 00:24:10,149 --> 00:24:08,240 like the search for these quasi crystals 667 00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:10,159 and there's a a really interesting book 668 00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:11,919 i can't remember off the top of my mind 669 00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:14,080 but it documents the the quest for these 670 00:24:19,269 --> 00:24:17,200 natural quasi crystals but it's uh 671 00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:19,279 it's it's exciting it's a 672 00:24:22,789 --> 00:24:21,360 cool thing that's that's exactly what i 673 00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:22,799 wanted to hear from you man you broke it 674 00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:25,360 down to a point where it was interesting 675 00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:28,000 but also really exciting um 676 00:24:32,710 --> 00:24:29,760 daniel shaw miller here rather needs a 677 00:24:35,029 --> 00:24:32,720 science show on netflix i would i would 678 00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:35,039 watch that man absolutely 679 00:24:38,549 --> 00:24:36,080 netflix 680 00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:38,559 couldn't agree more man um now the next 681 00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:41,120 one that's something that i've 682 00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:42,640 been thinking about for some time over 683 00:24:46,390 --> 00:24:44,400 the past few years is gravity waves you 684 00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:46,400 know something that's quite new as far 685 00:24:51,029 --> 00:24:49,039 as the discovery but the potential of 686 00:24:52,870 --> 00:24:51,039 what could be done with it as far as 687 00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:52,880 relating it to uap whether it be 688 00:24:57,269 --> 00:24:55,760 tracking or or things like that now what 689 00:24:58,789 --> 00:24:57,279 is your take on that when you looked 690 00:25:01,110 --> 00:24:58,799 into it 691 00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:01,120 yeah so that is incredibly interesting i 692 00:25:04,470 --> 00:25:03,600 i think you know gravity waves are 693 00:25:06,310 --> 00:25:04,480 you know 694 00:25:08,310 --> 00:25:06,320 in the last 10 years we've been able to 695 00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:08,320 detect them and 696 00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:09,840 it's essentially like you know you look 697 00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:12,240 out into the the sky and you know we're 698 00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:14,720 currently using our eyes our telescopes 699 00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:16,559 to see the visual information like the 700 00:25:21,909 --> 00:25:19,440 stars and visually see what's out there 701 00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:21,919 gravity waves looking at gravity waves 702 00:25:27,590 --> 00:25:24,799 they're very analogous to sound waves 703 00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:27,600 they're like compressional waves that 704 00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:29,279 move through space and they go through 705 00:25:33,669 --> 00:25:31,919 everything so now that we can start 706 00:25:35,269 --> 00:25:33,679 essentially hearing what's going on in 707 00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:35,279 space it's like a 708 00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:37,360 completely new sense that we can explore 709 00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:38,960 our universe with 710 00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:41,520 and currently our years are pretty 711 00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:44,080 limited our gravity ears like all we can 712 00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:46,880 hear are the very loudest sounds out 713 00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:48,320 there in the cosmos and that's you know 714 00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:50,480 when the black holes circle around each 715 00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:52,480 other and merge you know that creates 716 00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:55,600 these giant gravity ripples that are 717 00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:58,000 you know we can detect them millions and 718 00:26:01,510 --> 00:25:59,760 millions of light years away 719 00:26:03,590 --> 00:26:01,520 um that's what we're currently detecting 720 00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:03,600 that's alone is really cool because 721 00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:06,559 we're making a kind of an audio map of 722 00:26:09,269 --> 00:26:08,080 these events that are going around in 723 00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:09,279 our universe 724 00:26:14,549 --> 00:26:11,440 but uh you know the as it pertains to 725 00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:14,559 uap and aliens um you know first of all 726 00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:15,840 there's the thought that you might be 727 00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:17,520 able to detect 728 00:26:20,950 --> 00:26:19,440 how cubia drives with this right like 729 00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:20,960 things that are manipulating gravity 730 00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:22,799 here on earth 731 00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:24,720 and that might be possible i don't think 732 00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:27,200 that we currently have the technology to 733 00:26:31,029 --> 00:26:29,120 detect something like that 734 00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:31,039 right um because those would happen you 735 00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:32,880 know like it would be turning on 736 00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:34,720 on and off at 737 00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:36,400 it it would look just like random noise 738 00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:37,360 to us 739 00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:38,400 okay which 740 00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:40,400 there is a lot of random noise that goes 741 00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:41,840 on in these 742 00:26:46,390 --> 00:26:44,080 uh you know ligo and lisa these 743 00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:46,400 detectors of gravity waves so maybe we 744 00:26:50,549 --> 00:26:48,640 are seeing those but we just don't 745 00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:50,559 can't totally know for sure 746 00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:53,440 but what we might start to detect maybe 747 00:26:57,990 --> 00:26:56,000 relatively soon even is 748 00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:58,000 messages from other 749 00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:00,640 civilizations far far away from us 750 00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:02,880 there's a lot of people who think that 751 00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:04,720 gravity wave communication would be a 752 00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:07,520 lot better than communicating via radio 753 00:27:12,310 --> 00:27:10,320 or any electromagnetic signals because 754 00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:12,320 electromagnetic signals get 755 00:27:15,269 --> 00:27:14,240 warped and lost in dust and you know 756 00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:15,279 they can be 757 00:27:19,029 --> 00:27:17,279 obfuscated by a planet or something in 758 00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:19,039 front of it gravity waves are just going 759 00:27:24,950 --> 00:27:21,279 to go right right on through and they 760 00:27:26,389 --> 00:27:24,960 also go further than than lights um yeah 761 00:27:27,190 --> 00:27:26,399 something about this 762 00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:27,200 yeah 763 00:27:29,669 --> 00:27:28,320 so i was just gonna say sorry maybe 764 00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:29,679 because it's such a new thing that we've 765 00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:31,600 discovered like what five years pretty 766 00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:33,440 much maybe 767 00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:35,039 they're working on the technology that 768 00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:36,880 they think that yeah we've tried the 769 00:27:40,870 --> 00:27:38,960 radio wave thing you know with seti and 770 00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:40,880 that for so many years 771 00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:42,480 maybe they are working on that bringing 772 00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:44,640 that technology sort of to the forefront 773 00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:46,880 of looking out there to find these 774 00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:49,919 these waves yeah yeah and the next 775 00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:51,120 advancement for this is going to be 776 00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:53,520 really cool they're launching satellites 777 00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:55,120 into space 778 00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:57,440 that will be like connected via laser 779 00:28:01,830 --> 00:27:59,919 beams so like currently our ligo 780 00:28:03,430 --> 00:28:01,840 connectors are like you know they're i 781 00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:03,440 don't know how long they're on the order 782 00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:05,600 of miles long you know if you put it 783 00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:08,000 into space they're going to be hundreds 784 00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:09,600 of miles long i i don't know the scales 785 00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:11,360 it might even be longer than that but 786 00:28:16,149 --> 00:28:13,840 and the longer you have you know the 787 00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:16,159 longer the system is where the bigger it 788 00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:18,240 is the further out and the more things 789 00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:19,840 you can detect so 790 00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:21,120 yeah i think it's a 791 00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:22,720 an area to watch in the next couple 792 00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:23,679 years 793 00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:26,080 definitely man definitely fascinating 794 00:28:31,909 --> 00:28:28,320 just going to give a shout out to 795 00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:31,919 mr ryan sprague right ryan 796 00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:33,120 ryan it was a pleasure to meet you the 797 00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:34,799 other night congratulations again on 798 00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:37,520 your uh engagement and and i think you 799 00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:39,919 met lou elizondo today as well so it's 800 00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:41,279 all happening for 801 00:28:45,029 --> 00:28:43,039 for this guy right now i love ryan to 802 00:28:46,710 --> 00:28:45,039 bits um but don't be good with your 803 00:28:48,789 --> 00:28:46,720 family don't come in 804 00:28:50,389 --> 00:28:48,799 this and neglect your family and enjoy 805 00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:50,399 your vacation if you're still out there 806 00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:51,600 brother 807 00:28:55,510 --> 00:28:53,840 yeah was that was his fiancee just alone 808 00:28:57,190 --> 00:28:55,520 at the bar with uh when he was there at 809 00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:57,200 the group chats with you 810 00:29:02,230 --> 00:28:59,440 no to be fair we met ryan at his hotel 811 00:29:04,710 --> 00:29:02,240 and they were having like um 812 00:29:06,630 --> 00:29:04,720 a nice little um maybe some kind of 813 00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:06,640 afternoon tea there were scones and 814 00:29:11,350 --> 00:29:08,880 little cakes and things it was 815 00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:11,360 very sophisticated it was ryan his 816 00:29:15,669 --> 00:29:13,520 fiancee and family i hope you don't mind 817 00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:15,679 me telling this story ryan um and then 818 00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:22,070 and uh 819 00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:24,480 kind of abducted him almost to take him 820 00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:26,880 to the pub for guinness and scotch 821 00:29:30,950 --> 00:29:29,520 whiskey so no it was fantastic man the 822 00:29:33,029 --> 00:29:30,960 guy is a legend 823 00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:33,039 i'm jealous of that uh congratulations 824 00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:36,240 ryan uh could it be happier for you 825 00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:38,480 yeah look everyone's loving it oh it was 826 00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:39,360 great 827 00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:40,799 um 828 00:29:44,389 --> 00:29:42,880 now another one i'm going to keep 829 00:29:45,990 --> 00:29:44,399 bringing these up 830 00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:46,000 rather because they really were so 831 00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:47,919 fascinating but just 832 00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:50,080 slightly over my head was the time 833 00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:51,679 travel video that you did but then you 834 00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:53,279 brought in this thing called laplace's 835 00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:54,480 demon 836 00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:55,679 which 837 00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:57,039 stood out because it was something i'd 838 00:30:00,310 --> 00:29:58,799 not heard of before so again would you 839 00:30:01,029 --> 00:30:00,320 mind like talking us through it a little 840 00:30:02,310 --> 00:30:01,039 bit 841 00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:02,320 yeah um 842 00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:05,200 so so laplace's demon uh 843 00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:06,000 is 844 00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:08,240 a concept like a philosophical concept 845 00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:10,880 by this guy called laplace which was 846 00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:12,720 essentially if you 847 00:30:16,789 --> 00:30:14,880 had a 848 00:30:19,909 --> 00:30:16,799 you know if you knew all the laws of 849 00:30:22,389 --> 00:30:19,919 nature and you knew where everything was 850 00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:22,399 you could essentially replay the past 851 00:30:26,149 --> 00:30:24,399 and the present right like if everything 852 00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:26,159 is determinalistic and you know the 853 00:30:29,909 --> 00:30:28,080 rules and you know where things are you 854 00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:29,919 would literally know the future 855 00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:31,120 right and 856 00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:33,360 it's possible that especially when you 857 00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:35,120 talk about like interdimensional beings 858 00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:38,080 right if there is something that can 859 00:30:42,389 --> 00:30:40,480 transcend our three dimensions in time 860 00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:42,399 space that can 861 00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:44,720 you know there's another dimension and 862 00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:47,440 they view our reality like we view like 863 00:30:51,669 --> 00:30:49,600 books on a page where they can flip 864 00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:51,679 through it and they could tell what's 865 00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:53,279 happened and then flip back to the 866 00:30:56,549 --> 00:30:54,960 previous page 867 00:30:58,149 --> 00:30:56,559 that that essentially is what an 868 00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:58,159 interdimensional 869 00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:00,240 being would view our reality as it kind 870 00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:02,640 of be like a 3d choose your own 871 00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:04,640 adventure book for them 872 00:31:09,509 --> 00:31:07,360 uh and so if you had an entity like that 873 00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:09,519 the laplace demon 874 00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:10,559 they could 875 00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:12,960 interact with us and it would seem like 876 00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:14,640 i mean it seemed like a god or it seemed 877 00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:15,440 like 878 00:31:21,029 --> 00:31:16,880 you know 879 00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:21,039 they could literally if you had that 880 00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:23,440 ability they could only interact with us 881 00:31:28,630 --> 00:31:26,080 humans when they knew for sure that 882 00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:28,640 there was no chance for that to actually 883 00:31:33,029 --> 00:31:30,720 be provable right so when you talk about 884 00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:33,039 like a trickster type entity you know i 885 00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:35,360 mean you could see them you know looking 886 00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:38,320 through the pages of all the possible 887 00:31:42,149 --> 00:31:40,000 outcomes of their interactions and when 888 00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:42,159 they find oh right now no one's else is 889 00:31:47,029 --> 00:31:44,960 looking i can go scare this guy and he's 890 00:31:48,549 --> 00:31:47,039 everyone's gonna think he's crazy but it 891 00:31:51,509 --> 00:31:48,559 might have some other ripple effects 892 00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:51,519 that that they want you know they they 893 00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:52,880 they could do that 894 00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:53,919 uh wow 895 00:31:57,669 --> 00:31:55,679 yeah on one hand i love that theory 896 00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:57,679 right because yeah 897 00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:00,240 explain could explain everything but on 898 00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:02,159 the other hand i kind of hate the theory 899 00:32:04,870 --> 00:32:03,600 because it's 900 00:32:07,190 --> 00:32:04,880 kind of throwing your hands up and 901 00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:07,200 saying you know 902 00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:09,200 we'll never know you know that we're 903 00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:11,120 subject to an interdimensional being 904 00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:13,279 that is just toying with us and there's 905 00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:15,760 no way to ever prove it which 906 00:32:19,110 --> 00:32:17,600 kind of sucks if that's true 907 00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:19,120 it does but you know what this is just 908 00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:21,120 another example you know you looked into 909 00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:22,960 the time travel theory you're now 910 00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:24,720 looking at interdimensional and and 911 00:32:27,909 --> 00:32:26,240 you're asking the questions 912 00:32:31,029 --> 00:32:27,919 it's good that you're not afraid to go 913 00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:31,039 there which i think it really shows 914 00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:32,720 um but it shows that your knowledge of 915 00:32:36,470 --> 00:32:34,399 it you definitely do the research or you 916 00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:36,480 or you have a knack for it because you 917 00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:38,720 know it goes way above my head but but i 918 00:32:43,029 --> 00:32:40,799 love you yeah and watching 919 00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:43,039 i love staying up till 2-3 a.m just 920 00:32:47,110 --> 00:32:44,720 digging down those reddit rabbit holes 921 00:32:48,870 --> 00:32:47,120 and find all these weird links and 922 00:32:50,789 --> 00:32:48,880 yeah no i think that the that's where 923 00:32:53,110 --> 00:32:50,799 the fun is in the whole ufo community is 924 00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:53,120 digging down to these theories and 925 00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:55,600 seeing how they might make some sense 926 00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:57,760 yeah absolutely so how do time crystals 927 00:33:02,149 --> 00:33:00,720 fit in with time travel or is the is it 928 00:33:03,909 --> 00:33:02,159 a separate thing 929 00:33:06,870 --> 00:33:03,919 yeah so those are 930 00:33:09,909 --> 00:33:06,880 separate concepts actually so uh the 931 00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:09,919 time crystals has a very uh misleading 932 00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:12,480 name uh because i do kind of apply time 933 00:33:15,990 --> 00:33:14,880 travel but really what a time crystal is 934 00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:16,000 is just 935 00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:18,399 something that repeats 936 00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:20,880 in time so like we talked about quasi 937 00:33:24,789 --> 00:33:23,039 crystals and how crystals repeat in 938 00:33:26,630 --> 00:33:24,799 space because they have like a 939 00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:26,640 repeatable structure 940 00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:27,440 um 941 00:33:48,389 --> 00:33:28,320 a 942 00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:48,399 could 943 00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:50,399 it kind of implies like if you saw 944 00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:52,320 something like that it kind of implies 945 00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:54,480 perpetual motion right because it is 946 00:33:59,430 --> 00:33:57,360 something that is moving forever yeah 947 00:34:00,950 --> 00:33:59,440 constantly in motion and that you know 948 00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:00,960 you think of it physically and we're 949 00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:03,120 always told that that can't happen 950 00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:05,360 there's air resistance there's friction 951 00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:07,120 there's something that's going to 952 00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:08,879 cause that motion to eventually slow 953 00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:10,240 down and stop 954 00:34:13,909 --> 00:34:12,240 right they found in the last you know 955 00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:13,919 couple of years they've been able to 956 00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:15,520 demonstrate 957 00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:17,440 something at the very lowest energy 958 00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:18,720 state so it's just you know like a 959 00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:21,679 collection of molecules and they kind of 960 00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:24,320 jostle it and then it starts 961 00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:26,320 the the quantum spin on it starts to 962 00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:28,720 spin one way and then alternate to spin 963 00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:30,560 the other way so you have these 964 00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:32,720 molecules that are 965 00:34:38,069 --> 00:34:36,480 altering on a quantum level periodically 966 00:34:39,349 --> 00:34:38,079 and they'll just keep on doing this this 967 00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:39,359 forever 968 00:34:43,109 --> 00:34:40,800 and it's a 969 00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:43,119 a really weird phenomenon they're kind 970 00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:44,639 of 971 00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:46,320 haven't really found any practical 972 00:34:49,669 --> 00:34:48,159 applications for it yet and it's kind of 973 00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:49,679 unclear exactly what the practical 974 00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:51,919 applications are but it 975 00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:53,200 it's 976 00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:55,119 most of the research is around 977 00:34:59,589 --> 00:34:57,440 using these for like quantum computing 978 00:35:02,150 --> 00:34:59,599 and kind of trying to isolate these 979 00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:02,160 quantum effects and being able to uh you 980 00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:04,960 know make kind of coherent quantum 981 00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:06,400 structures 982 00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:08,720 so yeah i yeah i don't really know where 983 00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:10,160 the time crystals are going but i think 984 00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:19,109 because time travel is kind of a 985 00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:20,400 inherent 986 00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:23,440 side effect of faster than light travel 987 00:35:27,990 --> 00:35:24,960 so when you talk about being able to 988 00:35:29,589 --> 00:35:28,000 warp space or make any possible faster 989 00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:29,599 than light drive 990 00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:30,400 that 991 00:35:34,390 --> 00:35:33,359 travel 992 00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:34,400 and 993 00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:37,520 this is one of those things that i 994 00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:39,520 definitely have to keep straight in my 995 00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:42,000 mind before i attempt to explain it 996 00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:44,000 coherently but there's these things 997 00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:46,400 called space-time diagrams 998 00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:47,520 and 999 00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:49,280 kind of like a cool concept is that 1000 00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:52,560 we're always going the speed of light in 1001 00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:54,000 either the 1002 00:35:57,589 --> 00:35:55,599 time axis 1003 00:35:59,430 --> 00:35:57,599 or the space axis 1004 00:36:01,750 --> 00:35:59,440 so like the 1005 00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:01,760 so so if you're going really fast 1006 00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:03,920 in space you're going really slow in 1007 00:36:07,270 --> 00:36:04,960 time 1008 00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:07,280 okay and if you're and if you're going 1009 00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:10,880 faster and so your time and your space 1010 00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:12,480 always have to add up to the speed of 1011 00:36:15,430 --> 00:36:13,680 light 1012 00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:15,440 right and so this is where it gets weird 1013 00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:17,440 if you're going faster than the speed of 1014 00:36:21,270 --> 00:36:19,200 light 1015 00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:21,280 that mathematically means that your time 1016 00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:23,200 is negative because they have to add up 1017 00:36:28,870 --> 00:36:25,520 to the speed of light 1018 00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:28,880 and so that that that just yeah it's 1019 00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:30,960 it it's an argument for you know faster 1020 00:36:35,670 --> 00:36:34,160 than like travel may be being impossible 1021 00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:35,680 right but then you have you have people 1022 00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:38,240 like stephen hawkings and other 1023 00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:40,880 like you know top level theoretical 1024 00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:42,880 physicists who 1025 00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:44,560 are doing papers about this stuff who 1026 00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:46,880 talk about you know being able to go 1027 00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:49,280 back in time at the quantum level and 1028 00:36:53,589 --> 00:36:51,920 they you know they have these 1029 00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:53,599 principles that talk about you know how 1030 00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:55,440 you know might you might 1031 00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:57,200 be able to go back in time but maybe you 1032 00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:58,720 wouldn't be able to change anything 1033 00:37:03,510 --> 00:37:01,200 because that would create a 1034 00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:03,520 piling on a that would create like a 1035 00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:06,160 spiral space-time bubble that would 1036 00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:07,760 blow up the universe or something like 1037 00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:09,760 that so there's these cool like uh 1038 00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:11,359 there's the uh 1039 00:37:15,030 --> 00:37:12,480 uh 1040 00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:15,040 novakov self-consistency principle i 1041 00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:17,040 think that is but there's these these 1042 00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:18,480 principles that these theoretical 1043 00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:20,480 scientists have made about the the 1044 00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:22,880 nature of time travel so they're not 1045 00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:24,160 ruling it out but they're kind of 1046 00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:26,800 putting some parameters on it so yeah 1047 00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:28,000 it's 1048 00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:32,240 fascinating man and i love the way that 1049 00:37:36,790 --> 00:37:35,119 you explain it because it does it it i 1050 00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:36,800 can see it in my head like the way 1051 00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:38,240 you're talking about it it breaks it 1052 00:37:42,069 --> 00:37:39,839 down to a level where 1053 00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:42,079 i can kind of not necessarily understand 1054 00:37:45,829 --> 00:37:44,400 it but i can picture it and yeah i don't 1055 00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:45,839 think anyone could actually understand 1056 00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:47,040 this 1057 00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:48,880 pretty wild 1058 00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:51,040 now the one i think my favorite video 1059 00:37:55,109 --> 00:37:52,160 that you did 1060 00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:55,119 was the one about ball lightning 1061 00:37:58,150 --> 00:37:56,240 um 1062 00:38:00,870 --> 00:37:58,160 that blew me away it's not something 1063 00:38:02,150 --> 00:38:00,880 i've really looked into but i've started 1064 00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:02,160 recently looking into things like the 1065 00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:04,240 hairstyle and lights and things like 1066 00:38:07,270 --> 00:38:06,240 that so 1067 00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:07,280 yeah i don't know where you want to 1068 00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:09,839 start with ball lightning um but yeah 1069 00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:12,240 break it down for us if you can 1070 00:38:17,109 --> 00:38:14,640 yeah so you know the uh there's the 1071 00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:17,119 condon report in the the usa in like the 1072 00:38:21,430 --> 00:38:20,079 60s i kind of ended project blue book 1073 00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:21,440 and kind of you know had the thing 1074 00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:24,160 saying you know this is all atmospheric 1075 00:38:27,109 --> 00:38:25,680 stuff and you know there's no real 1076 00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:27,119 aliens here 1077 00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:29,200 but you know in that report they did say 1078 00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:31,280 that there are these atmospheric 1079 00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:33,839 phenomenon that deserve to be further 1080 00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:34,720 studied 1081 00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:36,320 and they call this you know ball 1082 00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:38,160 lightning and you know even before that 1083 00:38:42,870 --> 00:38:40,160 and i think in the 50s they did 1084 00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:42,880 a preliminary report on ball lightning 1085 00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:44,320 which i wish i dug up which i thought 1086 00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:46,400 was a kind of an interesting day when we 1087 00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:47,920 have the the current fully married 1088 00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:50,160 proton of uap 1089 00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:51,040 but that 1090 00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:52,800 that report you know is you know from 1091 00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:54,480 the 50s it did a 1092 00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:56,480 surveying of people at a nuclear 1093 00:39:00,550 --> 00:38:58,480 facility and like 1094 00:39:03,190 --> 00:39:00,560 something like three to five percent had 1095 00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:03,200 witnessed this ball lightning phenomenon 1096 00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:04,320 and 1097 00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:05,920 it's it's very 1098 00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:07,760 strange right there's 1099 00:39:10,630 --> 00:39:09,359 and and when i say ball lightning i 1100 00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:10,640 really don't even know what i mean like 1101 00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:12,480 a lot of people hear that and they 1102 00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:15,280 assume that you're talking about 1103 00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:18,240 natural atmospheric phenomenon something 1104 00:39:23,829 --> 00:39:20,960 like lightning but it's just you know 1105 00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:23,839 a ball and lasts for a couple seconds 1106 00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:26,480 um but if you if you look at this uh you 1107 00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:28,720 know preliminary report you know they're 1108 00:39:33,910 --> 00:39:30,640 suggesting that there might be 1109 00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:33,920 fusion reactions going on in these ball 1110 00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:36,240 lightning things which still could be a 1111 00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:38,320 natural phenomenon but 1112 00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:40,640 you know by my angle of it where i see 1113 00:39:45,589 --> 00:39:43,520 this going is that maybe these are 1114 00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:45,599 that's how the uap how you know 1115 00:39:49,589 --> 00:39:47,359 extraterrestrial craft work is that 1116 00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:49,599 they're causing this ball you know 1117 00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:51,040 causing a fusion reaction that's how 1118 00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:53,440 they get their energy and it looks like 1119 00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:55,680 ball lightning to us but 1120 00:40:02,069 --> 00:39:57,599 you know there's there's papers on you 1121 00:40:04,630 --> 00:40:02,079 know self-organizing plasma dust and 1122 00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:04,640 they could even be their own life forms 1123 00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:06,240 right there could be plasma life that 1124 00:40:10,550 --> 00:40:07,760 exists in the atmosphere maybe it is an 1125 00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:10,560 e.t but there's just you know so many 1126 00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:13,520 different possibilities and it's 1127 00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:15,200 yeah i i think it's very very 1128 00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:16,640 interesting you talk about heslin as 1129 00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:18,480 well you know yeah there's clear 1130 00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:21,359 examples of it going on but it's still 1131 00:40:24,790 --> 00:40:23,040 it seems like we should know more about 1132 00:40:27,190 --> 00:40:24,800 these fall lightnings in the hesseland 1133 00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:27,200 areas and stuff but definitely but we 1134 00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:29,359 don't but i find that interesting yeah 1135 00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:30,800 and like i said it's something i've only 1136 00:40:34,230 --> 00:40:32,640 really recently touched upon i think i'm 1137 00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:34,240 going to be speaking to erling strand in 1138 00:40:38,069 --> 00:40:36,000 a few weeks because 1139 00:40:38,950 --> 00:40:38,079 i want to learn i want to learn more man 1140 00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:38,960 um 1141 00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:40,800 but yeah dan the signal thank you 1142 00:40:45,430 --> 00:40:43,119 brother for being here um i miss you man 1143 00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:45,440 we we spent a few good days together but 1144 00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:47,920 he says ball lightning is fascinating we 1145 00:40:53,190 --> 00:40:50,400 understand so little about it and it has 1146 00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:53,200 oh so many similar qualities 1147 00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:55,200 but then goes on 1148 00:40:59,990 --> 00:40:57,119 where was it i missed it 1149 00:41:01,510 --> 00:41:00,000 i imagine they use the mechanism the uap 1150 00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:01,520 do i mean 1151 00:41:04,470 --> 00:41:03,520 wow 1152 00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:04,480 yeah 1153 00:41:08,710 --> 00:41:06,240 he mentioned via the martin fisherman 1154 00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:08,720 memorial project which is a a really 1155 00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:10,560 cool uh you know project that's doing a 1156 00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:13,280 lot of research in these areas of 1157 00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:16,240 fusion reactions and ball lightning and 1158 00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:19,040 a concept like code fusion uh so i'd 1159 00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:20,400 recommend everyone checking that out if 1160 00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:22,640 they're interested in this topic 1161 00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:25,200 i will certainly be popping that 1162 00:41:30,790 --> 00:41:28,000 into uh my browser later thank you 1163 00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:30,800 signal thank you rather um so listen 1164 00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:32,240 that that's kind of covered all your 1165 00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:33,599 videos now what i will say is to 1166 00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:34,960 everybody 1167 00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:37,119 in the chat right now listening to this 1168 00:41:41,349 --> 00:41:39,440 on youtube later or or on apple podcast 1169 00:41:43,030 --> 00:41:41,359 or spotify you've got to go and check 1170 00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:43,040 out rather's channel because it is 1171 00:41:47,589 --> 00:41:45,359 incredible because it breaks down these 1172 00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:47,599 scientific principles or conversations 1173 00:41:52,550 --> 00:41:50,319 to a point where it's not as 1174 00:41:54,470 --> 00:41:52,560 mind-numbing as he might think sometimes 1175 00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:54,480 rather does a great job 1176 00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:56,640 um now let's say let's jump back let's 1177 00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:58,400 jump back to a bit more of what's been 1178 00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:00,640 happening recently i think your latest 1179 00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:03,440 video which i watched earlier is 1180 00:42:07,750 --> 00:42:06,240 regarding skin walkers at the pentagon 1181 00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:07,760 yeah that's a 1182 00:42:12,710 --> 00:42:11,040 wild story huh it is i mean it gives us 1183 00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:12,720 some details about the relationship 1184 00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:15,280 between orsap and atip 1185 00:42:18,790 --> 00:42:17,119 still a little bit of things unclear for 1186 00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:18,800 me personally 1187 00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:20,800 then there's obviously some controversy 1188 00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:22,720 with kind of 1189 00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:24,720 high strangeness let's say 1190 00:42:28,069 --> 00:42:25,839 um 1191 00:42:30,550 --> 00:42:28,079 what's your breakdown or take on it from 1192 00:42:32,069 --> 00:42:30,560 from from your perspective 1193 00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:32,079 yeah i mean it's uh 1194 00:42:36,069 --> 00:42:33,920 i i found it really fascinating you know 1195 00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:36,079 the whole a tip versus awesome i think 1196 00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:37,280 that that 1197 00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:38,800 shed some light on there which i you 1198 00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:40,800 know i thought was very very interesting 1199 00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:41,680 uh 1200 00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:43,200 you know when you get to the specifics 1201 00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:45,040 of the stories there 1202 00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:46,720 it's like you know wow right you know 1203 00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:49,440 after after i read the or saw the 2017 1204 00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:51,359 new york times story one of the first 1205 00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:52,800 things that i 1206 00:42:57,030 --> 00:42:54,240 went into was 1207 00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:57,040 it's george knapp skinwalker ranch book 1208 00:43:00,230 --> 00:42:58,560 and you have the stuff that went on 1209 00:43:02,230 --> 00:43:00,240 there and you at the time i was like you 1210 00:43:04,390 --> 00:43:02,240 know wow this is 1211 00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:04,400 unbelievable right like 1212 00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:06,240 and and now you know we have this new 1213 00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:08,160 book that kind of doubles down on all 1214 00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:12,079 those really crazy tales about cryptids 1215 00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:15,040 and you know irrational fear circles and 1216 00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:16,560 and stuff like that 1217 00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:18,160 and it 1218 00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:19,520 on one hand you know you kind of want to 1219 00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:20,880 read that and just say you know this 1220 00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:22,880 can't be right this is 1221 00:43:27,349 --> 00:43:24,640 this is like you know 1222 00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:27,359 it's a step above et visiting us because 1223 00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:30,160 like i can have a scientific basis for 1224 00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:32,400 and i almost scientist i believe that we 1225 00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:34,240 should be seeing et's based on if you 1226 00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:36,800 think that if space travel is possible 1227 00:43:40,069 --> 00:43:38,160 and we're not alone 1228 00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:40,079 yeah but something like you know that 1229 00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:42,000 you know interdimensional sasquatches 1230 00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:43,200 you know 1231 00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:45,280 coming around i i don't really have any 1232 00:43:49,109 --> 00:43:47,440 scientific framework that can 1233 00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:49,119 build that into it 1234 00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:50,640 but but then you know when i was reading 1235 00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:52,079 this book 1236 00:43:57,270 --> 00:43:54,560 you hear about them talking about 1237 00:43:59,829 --> 00:43:57,280 the people who have these experiences 1238 00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:59,839 have immune system responses like they 1239 00:44:03,430 --> 00:44:01,200 take their blood and it looks like 1240 00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:03,440 they've you know our their immune system 1241 00:44:07,349 --> 00:44:05,200 is fighting something 1242 00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:07,359 and then you also pair that with the 1243 00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:09,760 hitchhiker effect which they kind of 1244 00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:11,520 double down on this book as well you 1245 00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:13,359 know people go to the ranch and then 1246 00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:14,960 they go home and their family members 1247 00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:17,359 start experiencing these this weirdness 1248 00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:18,720 yeah 1249 00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:20,720 and they even talk about in the book 1250 00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:22,960 treating or you know modeling the 1251 00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:25,920 behavior on the ranch as an infectious 1252 00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:27,119 agent 1253 00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:28,640 and they they say you know there's a lot 1254 00:44:31,589 --> 00:44:30,160 of parallels between the hitchhiker 1255 00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:31,599 effect and how a virus might be 1256 00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:32,880 transmitted 1257 00:44:34,870 --> 00:44:33,680 um 1258 00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:34,880 and so then you know when i'm you know 1259 00:44:39,430 --> 00:44:37,119 racking my brain and trying to find a 1260 00:44:42,150 --> 00:44:39,440 scientific potential explanation for all 1261 00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:42,160 this weirdness that goes on there 1262 00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:43,920 you know i think that jumps right out at 1263 00:44:48,790 --> 00:44:46,000 me is that hey maybe this maybe this is 1264 00:44:51,670 --> 00:44:48,800 a literal infectious agent that is 1265 00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:51,680 you know it may be in the in the dirt in 1266 00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:53,200 the soil somewhere in the in the food 1267 00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:54,720 supply that 1268 00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:57,440 people are inhaling and 1269 00:45:01,430 --> 00:44:59,359 maybe hallucinating maybe getting some 1270 00:45:03,430 --> 00:45:01,440 you know fear and 1271 00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:03,440 when they come home they they spread 1272 00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:05,680 that virus that's causing that strange 1273 00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:06,880 effects to 1274 00:45:09,670 --> 00:45:08,400 other people 1275 00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:09,680 uh yeah 1276 00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:11,040 interesting 1277 00:45:13,990 --> 00:45:12,640 that's like the only way i could really 1278 00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:14,000 make sense of it i don't i don't know if 1279 00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:16,240 it's true but it is hard to make sense 1280 00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:17,760 of it that's the thing when you get onto 1281 00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:19,520 that aspect of the high strangeness in 1282 00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:21,440 the book it's all good talking about 1283 00:45:25,349 --> 00:45:24,160 government compartments and agencies and 1284 00:45:27,349 --> 00:45:25,359 groups 1285 00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:27,359 but then when you get into the ranch and 1286 00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:29,200 and the deep stuff yeah 1287 00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:31,280 um 1288 00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:33,280 we're talking immune systems 1289 00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:35,119 can you ask rather what he thinks about 1290 00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:38,880 nolan's work with a caudate puterman 1291 00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:41,200 i assume he means gary nolan 1292 00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:43,040 correct me if i'm wrong dan 1293 00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:47,119 um i see rather noting away yeah 1294 00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:49,680 i am not familiar with uh with that at 1295 00:45:53,190 --> 00:45:51,119 all but uh 1296 00:45:55,270 --> 00:45:53,200 dan has awesome information so i'm 1297 00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:55,280 definitely taking a note to uh research 1298 00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:58,079 that later thank you we will get back to 1299 00:46:01,829 --> 00:46:00,319 you on that dan no problem at all 1300 00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:01,839 michael hunterton that's a good point 1301 00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:03,920 hitchhiker effect will remain voodoo 1302 00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:06,880 until a mechanism is ascribed 1303 00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:09,760 fantastic point it is 1304 00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:11,119 i mean that's a strange thing too 1305 00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:13,520 because you know voodoo 1306 00:46:17,349 --> 00:46:15,599 has real physical effects on people 1307 00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:17,359 right you have you talk about the 1308 00:46:21,750 --> 00:46:19,280 placebo effect and 1309 00:46:23,190 --> 00:46:21,760 how strange that is and yeah maybe 1310 00:46:24,309 --> 00:46:23,200 that's what's going on there it seems 1311 00:46:26,710 --> 00:46:24,319 like 1312 00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:26,720 a very very powerful placebo effect 1313 00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:28,160 that's what's happening at the skywalker 1314 00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:30,240 ranch but 1315 00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:31,440 there might be an aspect of that going 1316 00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:32,560 on too 1317 00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:34,240 i think a little bit of this frustrating 1318 00:46:36,790 --> 00:46:35,760 is i think it seems that there's a lot 1319 00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:36,800 of 1320 00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:39,119 the research that was done on the ranch 1321 00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:41,440 previously through uh through bass is 1322 00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:44,160 still hidden away within bass somewhere 1323 00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:46,720 you know it's it's outside of 1324 00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:49,280 the realms of foyer and things like that 1325 00:46:54,069 --> 00:46:52,000 and yet we we don't get to see it and it 1326 00:46:56,150 --> 00:46:54,079 sounds like bigelow's sitting on 1327 00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:56,160 a hell of a lot of data and information 1328 00:47:01,270 --> 00:46:59,040 possibly you know yeah i know it is it 1329 00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:01,280 is frustrating right especially when 1330 00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:02,720 our government paid for that research 1331 00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:04,319 you know we should 1332 00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:06,319 be able to flip through it 1333 00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:08,480 yeah exactly like get as many scientists 1334 00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:11,040 as we can looking at it because 1335 00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:12,880 yeah it baffles me here you go signal 1336 00:47:18,309 --> 00:47:15,520 again bigelow should give it to us for 1337 00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:18,319 christmas there you go man 1338 00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:20,400 it does seem like all this ufo dudes 1339 00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:22,000 does seem to come out in december like 1340 00:47:26,630 --> 00:47:24,079 the 2017 came out in december i think 1341 00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:26,640 there's a couple other drops there i 1342 00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:28,480 here's hoping 1343 00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:30,240 hey man i'll take that i'll take it 1344 00:47:35,109 --> 00:47:32,720 every year something to look forward to 1345 00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:35,119 um so finally like a couple of or one of 1346 00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:36,240 the last things i'd like to talk to you 1347 00:47:40,950 --> 00:47:38,240 about is we've seen recently about the 1348 00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:40,960 possibility of a uap permanent office 1349 00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:42,960 being set up well at least for the next 1350 00:47:47,270 --> 00:47:45,839 four years maybe um do you have much 1351 00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:47,280 confidence in what you've seen when 1352 00:47:55,589 --> 00:47:52,960 looking at you know hr 4350 and 2610 1353 00:47:57,750 --> 00:47:55,599 yeah i i'm excited about that i think 1354 00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:57,760 that you know i wish that 1355 00:48:01,510 --> 00:47:59,599 those bills would have specified a 1356 00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:01,520 public report versus just you know kind 1357 00:48:05,349 --> 00:48:03,839 of the the confidential reports 1358 00:48:07,349 --> 00:48:05,359 but you know 1359 00:48:08,870 --> 00:48:07,359 you look back into the the weird history 1360 00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:08,880 of this issue and you know the 1361 00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:11,119 skinwalker ranch stuff and the awes app 1362 00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:13,040 and i think you know kind of regardless 1363 00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:15,040 of whether you think that that was a you 1364 00:48:20,549 --> 00:48:17,520 know a wild goose chase or had some 1365 00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:20,559 merit to it i think that undeniably 1366 00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:22,240 there's a lot of good that came out of 1367 00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:24,640 it which was the uap task force which 1368 00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:27,119 gave us that report and now this uap 1369 00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:29,280 office which seemed 1370 00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:31,359 yeah it seems you know from all 1371 00:48:34,390 --> 00:48:33,280 available information that these are 1372 00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:34,400 real 1373 00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:35,680 valid 1374 00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:38,640 takes and people looking into these uaps 1375 00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:40,640 that are going into their skies 1376 00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:41,920 so you know i i 1377 00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:44,160 applaud those efforts and i think it's a 1378 00:48:47,430 --> 00:48:46,240 i mean it's the most movement in the 1379 00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:47,440 government for 1380 00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:49,440 you know since blue book right for 1381 00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:52,640 50 60 years i think it's amazing 1382 00:48:57,990 --> 00:48:55,599 certainly in the public eye yeah i mean 1383 00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:58,000 for sure i i'm i'm with you on that 1384 00:49:01,190 --> 00:48:59,200 absolutely 1385 00:49:03,430 --> 00:49:01,200 um so 1386 00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:03,440 what you know we we know you from ucr 1387 00:49:07,190 --> 00:49:05,119 and singularity lab in that but have you 1388 00:49:09,349 --> 00:49:07,200 got anything else planned for the near 1389 00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:09,359 future or going forward any research 1390 00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:12,240 that you're digging into right now 1391 00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:14,160 um nothing 1392 00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:16,720 really uh burning on my plate i've uh i 1393 00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:17,920 think i'm gonna try to make a little 1394 00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:19,680 video explaining some of those concepts 1395 00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:21,440 of the the faucet demon a little bit 1396 00:49:26,150 --> 00:49:24,480 more and maybe uh maybe relate it to uh 1397 00:49:28,829 --> 00:49:26,160 santa claus because i think that he 1398 00:49:30,309 --> 00:49:28,839 might be a interdimensional 1399 00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:30,319 entity so wow 1400 00:49:34,309 --> 00:49:32,079 it's a good time of year 1401 00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:34,319 we'll see see if i can get that out in 1402 00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:35,839 time for christmas 1403 00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:38,400 that is awesome man well listen rather 1404 00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:40,160 thank you so much for joining me man 1405 00:49:44,950 --> 00:49:42,000 before you leave penny please tell 1406 00:49:46,790 --> 00:49:44,960 everybody where they can find you yeah 1407 00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:46,800 on twitter at beast quitting at uh 1408 00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:48,720 youtube rather be tweeting thanks 1409 00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:50,800 phineas uh always great talking to you 1410 00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:53,280 man it was incredible honestly i'm gonna 1411 00:49:57,109 --> 00:49:54,960 even go back and watch your channel 1412 00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:57,119 videos again because 1413 00:50:01,829 --> 00:49:59,040 they are that good i cannot stress 1414 00:50:04,150 --> 00:50:01,839 enough to everybody out there the rather 1415 00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:04,160 comes from such a great angle 1416 00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:06,000 that it's going to make you want more 1417 00:50:10,309 --> 00:50:07,839 it's going to make you dig more as well 1418 00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:10,319 so yeah 1419 00:50:14,069 --> 00:50:12,319 go and subscribe to rather follow me on 1420 00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:14,079 twitter and all that but rather again 1421 00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:16,240 thank you so much my friend enjoy the 1422 00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:18,480 rest of your day and we'll uh we'll see 1423 00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:20,800 you back on ucr in a couple of days 1424 00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:21,839 thanks 1425 00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:23,920 see you later take care bye-bye now you 1426 00:50:28,950 --> 00:50:26,640 do 1427 00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:28,960 thank you everybody for joining us 1428 00:50:32,069 --> 00:50:30,160 tonight i 1429 00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:32,079 had such i knew that was going to be a 1430 00:50:34,549 --> 00:50:33,440 great discussion 1431 00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:34,559 uh i 1432 00:50:38,549 --> 00:50:36,720 literally have so much time for for the 1433 00:50:40,549 --> 00:50:38,559 things that rather talks about 1434 00:50:42,390 --> 00:50:40,559 um whether it be on ucr in the 1435 00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:42,400 singularity lab but 1436 00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:44,240 you know again i'm going to stress one 1437 00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:46,559 final time that his channel is 1438 00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:48,319 phenomenal it's really good and 1439 00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:49,839 interesting stuff and it will lead you 1440 00:50:54,150 --> 00:50:52,079 down some new rabbit holes that you 1441 00:50:55,750 --> 00:50:54,160 might not have kind of you know thought 1442 00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:55,760 about before so 1443 00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:57,760 yep guys let's just let's just go 1444 00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:59,040 through the chat before i go because 1445 00:51:01,990 --> 00:51:00,880 i've been away for a while and it's been 1446 00:51:03,670 --> 00:51:02,000 good to see 1447 00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:03,680 so many people i hope you've all had a 1448 00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:06,160 good few days since i was last on 1449 00:51:13,030 --> 00:51:10,319 yeah priscilla eve clancy nmuap bass 1450 00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:13,040 laura sosa wilfred's here night gazer 1451 00:51:18,069 --> 00:51:15,760 michael huntington joss 1452 00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:18,079 dragonfly 1453 00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:21,119 always good to see all of my friends the 1454 00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:23,040 signal 1455 00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:25,760 mr sean rash byron good to see you man 1456 00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:28,880 lord ludacris surf psych 1457 00:51:33,589 --> 00:51:30,720 daniel miller 1458 00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:33,599 millisecond falcon knight gazer you guys 1459 00:51:40,309 --> 00:51:36,000 rock every single one of you greg good 1460 00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:42,630 how the f was the weekend man the 1461 00:51:47,510 --> 00:51:45,280 weekend was incredible like i guess i'll 1462 00:51:49,510 --> 00:51:47,520 address one one 1463 00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:49,520 the weekend was good we 1464 00:51:53,270 --> 00:51:51,680 got so much done we talked about so much 1465 00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:53,280 we 1466 00:51:56,870 --> 00:51:55,119 discussed possibilities for the future 1467 00:51:58,069 --> 00:51:56,880 you know so if anything comes of it you 1468 00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:58,079 you'll see it in the future and i think 1469 00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:00,160 that's all that i can really say about 1470 00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:02,640 that you know 1471 00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:05,200 plans take time 1472 00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:06,400 ideas 1473 00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:09,359 may come to fruition they may not 1474 00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:11,119 um 1475 00:52:15,510 --> 00:52:12,960 friendships that were already formed 1476 00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:15,520 were just solidified and bonded you know 1477 00:52:19,270 --> 00:52:17,680 dan i'm sure the zigna will speak to 1478 00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:19,280 that it was 1479 00:52:23,190 --> 00:52:21,520 incredible how well we got on 1480 00:52:25,990 --> 00:52:23,200 how much fun we had in each other's 1481 00:52:27,910 --> 00:52:26,000 presence the conversations that flowed 1482 00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:27,920 um it showed us that whatever we do 1483 00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:30,160 going forward as a group is going to be 1484 00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:32,240 great with so many good minds working 1485 00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:33,280 together 1486 00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:36,240 um we're a very positive thinking group 1487 00:52:42,710 --> 00:52:39,200 when it comes to the uap ufo subject 1488 00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:42,720 and all we want to do is 1489 00:52:47,990 --> 00:52:45,040 do our best for for the community you 1490 00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:48,000 know so um we had so much support over 1491 00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:53,430 there we go here he is vinnie is 1492 00:52:57,990 --> 00:52:55,760 officially family now all the uap media 1493 00:52:59,510 --> 00:52:58,000 guys are just bloody fantastic truly it 1494 00:53:01,829 --> 00:52:59,520 was we really did you know living in a 1495 00:53:04,470 --> 00:53:01,839 house with 1496 00:53:06,790 --> 00:53:04,480 so many dudes for three days you quickly 1497 00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:06,800 become friends 1498 00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:08,160 you know 1499 00:53:10,710 --> 00:53:09,040 um 1500 00:53:12,549 --> 00:53:10,720 but it's all love it's nothing but love 1501 00:53:14,870 --> 00:53:12,559 so yeah 1502 00:53:16,790 --> 00:53:14,880 guys i thank you so much for joining me 1503 00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:16,800 um i'm going to be back here on youtube 1504 00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:18,640 and let me just check my schedule 1505 00:53:24,950 --> 00:53:23,589 this thursday 1506 00:53:28,150 --> 00:53:24,960 same time as tonight i'm going to be 1507 00:53:30,870 --> 00:53:28,160 joined by mr christopher plane uh head 1508 00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:30,880 science writer for the debrief 1509 00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:33,680 um you may have seen him on ucr i 1510 00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:35,359 cannot wait i'm trying to look at this 1511 00:53:39,430 --> 00:53:37,359 subject from many more aspects 1512 00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:39,440 science like we spoke with rather than 1513 00:53:43,589 --> 00:53:41,280 about that kind of thing so it's it's 1514 00:53:45,589 --> 00:53:43,599 it's all a learning curve 1515 00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:45,599 every single day look at it in a 1516 00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:47,359 positive light so 1517 00:53:50,950 --> 00:53:49,440 guys thank you so much i'm gonna go and 1518 00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:50,960 chill out 1519 00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:52,960 it's been a long few days 1520 00:53:56,390 --> 00:53:54,400 i love you guys to bits thank you for 1521 00:53:58,390 --> 00:53:56,400 joining me and i'll see you on the next